The Taxman Complains

My apologies here, but I simply must ask this question. Are we now promoting driveling idiots to the top of the bureaucracy?

Speaking at last week’s annual ICAEW Wyman Symposium, HMRC director general
Dave Hartnett made a colourful speech in which he….‘Tax administrators want advisers to take a deep breath and stop complaining.
My colleagues feel oppressed by constant criticism,’

Diddums there. But this is far worse:

Hartnett has often said that the [accountancy] profession needs to help the taxman more in
the fight against tax avoidance.

I beg your pardon? Tax avoidance is not only legal, it is the very reason you hire an accountant in the first place. What in buggery are you talking about when you ask that they help you, rather than the people who actually pay their bills keep some fraction of their own income?

He
said that every country involved in a recent OECD project believed that tax
advisers and their actions had an adverse effect on government budgets.

Yes, that’s the point of them all right.

‘Without reservation they think advisers had undermined spending plans by
governments,’ Hartnett said.

They’re supposed to.

Look, I don’t mind the taxman complaining about the effectiveness of tax advisors, nor about the idiocy of the laws (with their multifarious loopholes) which dim politicians have given them to adminster. But to complain that the people hired to guide people through the system at the least expense actually guide them through the system at the least expense is simply drivel.

13 responses

  1. I think we’ve had idiots in the bureaucracy for some time now. It’s all to do with giving everyone a standard education. Merit is shunned and a mediocracy is created where you’re not supposed to be bright.
    Managers would say this is not the case, but they tended to be educated as the process first began, so they’re already a long way down the slide.

  2. dearieme Avatar
    dearieme

    “Shovel. Stores. Lord Clyde. Fuck off.” I think that about covers it.

  3. Ah, there you are dearieme. I’m still waiting for your proof that climate models are, apparently without exception, “a product of hubris and dishonesty”.

  4. StuartA, Stop stalking dearieme.
    As for climate models, it is for their creators to prove their validity. Remember the climate models are only tools and do not have any predictive or forecasting ability.

  5. Whether or not what you say is true regarding models, Kit (it’s false), I seek rather more from dearieme — namely evidence that thousands of climate scientists worldwide are engaged in a dishonest and hubristic conspiracy. If dearieme doesn’t wish to be picked up on his airy, evidence-challenged statements then I suggest he stop making them.

  6. StuartA,
    “(it’s false)” – Wrong, it’s true.
    Don’t take my word for it. Kevin E. Trenberth in a recent post in Nature’s Climate Feedback:
    http://blogs.nature.com/climatefeedback/2007/06/predictions_of_climate.html
    Now, what was that about “airy, evidence-challenged statements”;)

  7. Ah, there you are StuartA. I’m still waiting for your proof that you really are as bitingly hilarious as you clearly think you are.

  8. It’s part and parcel of the new attitude engendered by the Gobblin’ King that if, after his goons have demanded money with menaces from you, you have anything left it’s because he’s such a generous guy. HMRC actually count untaxed income as foregone revenue.
    In case any of you were wondering about the provenance of dearieme’s paraphrase: “No man in this country is under the least obligation, moral or otherwise, so as to arrange his legal relations to his business or to his property as to enable the Inland Revenue to put the largest possible shovel into his store”
    Lord Clyde – 1929 Judgement.

  9. Trenberth says the IPCC provide “‘what if’ projections of future climate that correspond to certain emissions scenarios”. These emissions scenarios have been discussed here before. The need for them does not eliminate models’ predictive ability given a known set of inputs. Nor does it negate IPCC projection ranges.
    He says that various aspects of the observed climate today are not currently incorporated into models. This is also uncontroversial.
    Then he says this:
    However, the science is not done because we do not have reliable or regional predictions of climate. But we need them. Indeed it is an imperative! So the science is just beginning.
    I don’t see how this invalidates the notion of climate model predictions. He is suggesting the models need improvement, not that the idea of models is wrong. Given Trenberth’s involvement in the IPCC chapter on model evaluation, it is doubtful that he denies the validity of the entire enterprise. I would also point out that Trenberth affirms the likelihood of anthropogenic climate change.
    Meanwhile dearieme’s conspiracy theories remain unsupported by evidence.

  10. dsquared Avatar
    dsquared

    since that is not a verbatim quote in quotation marks and it appears in “Accountancy Age” which is not exactly a neutral source, a cautious reporter might have looked round for a transcript before concluding that someone was a “blithering idiot”.

  11. Brown has form for thinking that people shall work and be permitted some pocket money.
    “All your earnings are belong Gordon”

  12. Congratulations! You have spotted the next step in the Government’s Glorious plan. Having addressed the issues of racism, sexism, ageism, etc. They have now worked their way around to stupidity and incompetence.
    Clearly their job adverts will now be including a paragraph to the effect: “[Name of Government, or Local Council Department] are equal opportunity employers. Currently the incapable and incompetent are under represented in our workforce. We welcome applications from the stupid underachieving incompetent community.

  13. JuliaM Avatar
    JuliaM

    “Clearly their job adverts will now be including a paragraph to the effect: “[Name of Government, or Local Council Department] are equal opportunity employers. Currently the incapable and incompetent are under represented in our workforce.
    Oh, if only that were true…….

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