Indefinite Sentences

These have always rather puzzled me:

The tough "public protection" sentences – known as
IPPs – were introduced two years ago for violent and sexual offenders
and thousands have been handed down.

Although minimum "tariffs" are set, the decision to release an inmate is taken by the Parole Board.

The sentence prevents dangerous and violent criminals
being released until the authorities are satisfied they are no longer a
threat to the public.

A number of legal challenges are pending, brought by inmates who say this is in breach of their human rights.

I mean, I understand why they are imposed: lock the dangerous buggers up until they are no longer dangerous. But I’m not all that sure that they can be squared with hte human rights thing. Be found guilty of a crime, yes, be sentenced and serve that sentence, yes.

But an indefinite sentence is one for crimes that you might potentially commit in the future…how can that actually be consistent with only being punished for crimes that you have in fact committed?

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4 responses

  1. dearieme Avatar
    dearieme

    Because it isn’t PUNISHMENT, surely?

  2. It depends how you look at it.
    If all violent criminals were locked up for life, but with potential for early release on parole if PB is convinced they won’t re-offend, that’s logical and OK.
    If violent criminals are given minimum sentence of three months (as appears to be the case nowadays) with the potential for sentence to be extended indefinitely, that is not OK.

  3. The Telegraph story is a bit misleading anyway – the legal challenges aren’t based on the inherent unfairness of an IPP sentence.
    They’re based on the fact that you need to take a course to prove you’re not a dangerous maniac before being released, and that prison overcrowding has meant people haven’t been allowed to actually take the courses even when they’ve been inside for longer than the minimum set by the judge.
    I hope that even the most hangy-and-floggy among you would agree that this isn’t really on…

  4. dearieme Avatar
    dearieme

    I suspect that the hangy-and-floggy would point out that that wouldn’t be a problem under their preferred system.

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