Tim Worstall

Free the 5,000

It would be like the Guildford Four case on
steroids, right? All over the papers, public inquiries, years of
litigation, every blowhard from Vanessa Redgrave to Tim Worstall
joining the Free the 5,000 support group.

If what Alex is saying is true (and I see no reason to doubt it) then yes, do sign me up for the support group, blowhard or not.

The essential point? Operation Ore, the crackdown on those purchasing child pornography…has been operating from a list of stolen credit cards, not a list of credit cards used to access child porn. Something of a difference, eh?

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  1. Martin Avatar
    Martin

    Tim,
    Yes, it certainly looks like it.
    However what both you and Alex might be missing is that there are certain safeguards preventing incorrect conviction.
    It would seem that the most prudent way of obtaining a conviction would be to confirm wihy the card issuers whether or not the details were genuine, for example that the cards had not been reported lost or stolen at the particular time, and then cross-referencing it against whatever images might be stored on the alleged buyers’ hard drives. One would imagine that unless either of these steps could be met a conviction might be difficult to obtain.

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  2. rv Avatar
    rv

    I can’t understand how you can be convicted unless you have stuff on your hard-drive.
    Was the incitement case a one-off? The example given was thrown out by the judge.
    Also I find it hard to believe Pete Townsend would have accepted a caution if nothing was on his computer. But then again it is hard to believe they would have let him off with a caution if they add caught him with prosecutable stuff.

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  3. IanP Avatar
    IanP

    Martin,
    This database refers back to 1999. I for one dont have my credit card statements going back that far.
    I also doubt whether anyone still has the original PC from 1999 either, with technology moving as it does.
    but I do wonder how many people have been placed on the Sex offenders register, as you can get an entry just on an accusation or suspicion.

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  4. IanP Avatar
    IanP

    My take on the same story from the Sex Offenders register viewpoint from Thursday.
    http://thejournal.parker-joseph.co.uk/blog/_archives/2007/4/19/2892379.html

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  5. IanP Avatar
    IanP

    Tim,
    no doubt we will start getting investigated for terrorist funding following this story this morning.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6578595.stm

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  6. Francis Avatar
    Francis

    I wrote about this too – http://www.di2.nu/200704/20a.htm

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  7. ChuckL Avatar
    ChuckL

    Here’s an example of one of one guy who fell victim to this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2zchxr

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  8. Not Saussure Avatar
    Not Saussure

    Was the incitement case a one-off? No. Incitement was, AIUI, one of the usual charges in such cases, at least certainly until R v Bowden clarified that downloading an image is equivalent to making one.

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