Tim Worstall

BNP Gay Porn Shocker!

I say we close down the BNP immediately!

A figurehead of the British National Party was named yesterday as the creator of a homosexual pornographic film.

Richard
Barnbrook, architect of the party’s successful local election campaign
in Barking and Dagenham, produced and directed HMS Discovery, A Love
Story, when he was a student in 1989. It is said to depict flagellation
and men clawing each other.

Mr
Barnbrook was one of 11 BNP candidates elected and takes up his post as
leader of the opposition this week. He said last night: "It was an art
film, end of story. It was not a bloody porn film."

Plenty of room in the Lib Dems, surely?

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17 responses

  1. JuliaM Avatar
    JuliaM

    So, the kind of thing that would usually win rave reviews in the Guardian’s Arts page as a ‘brave attempt to demolish societal boundaries, blah, blah..’ is used as a weapon against a result that the liberals don’t like..?
    Wow, it’s almost like they don’t have morals and standards, just a shrieking void, at the bottom of which is a desire to be in power at all costs.
    Though it IS fun to see them twist in the wind! I wonder which way the likes of Peter Tatchell will swing on this issue?

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  2. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    So, the kind of thing that would usually win rave reviews in the Guardian’s Arts page as a ‘brave attempt to demolish societal boundaries, blah, blah..’ is used as a weapon against a result that the liberals don’t like..?
    No, it’s being used as a means of exposing BNP hypocrisy, which it’s doing very amusingly.
    I haven’t seen the film, but going from a description (not least its own creator’s dismissal) it looks like exactly the kind of brain-numbing student toss that I spent rather too much of the 1990s having to sit through when my job involved talent-spotting promising new filmmakers – you know, the kind of thing made by people who want to be the next Derek Jarman but who don’t have one iota of the actual creative ability.
    And since it’s not listed in any of my various catalogues or databases – and neither its creator, come to that – I think we can safely assume that its sole use is going to be as a political football!
    (You might be surprised to hear this, but the Guardian – or at least its film section – actually has a pretty poor track record of championing the genuinely adventurous and experimental. This is, after all, a paper that once employed Toby Young as its chief film critic…)

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  3. Venichka Avatar
    Venichka

    I do wish the national press would keep up.
    This was the front-page story in the Barking and Dagenham Post (hardly a groundbreaking organ most of the time) almost exactly a year ago.
    What did come out more recently (in the Spectator, I think, initially) was that Barnbrook (long ago) was apparently involved with an actress who has starred in several Derek Jarman movies.
    I think the thing to do would be to get DVDs pressed up of the film and distributed door-to-door roudn the Becontree estate (esp Goresbrook Ward), just like the BNP did with their promotional “Africans for Essex” lying DVDs.
    If nothing else it would let those he is “representing” see what kind of film director he is/was.
    (NB the multiplex cinema in the ward, just off the A13, only shows really crap and in-your-face films: possibly “The Sex Lives of teh Potato Men” got a longer run there than most other places.)

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  4. JuliaM Avatar
    JuliaM

    “…it would let those he is “representing” see what kind of film director he is/was.”
    And this would speak to his political qualifications how?

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  5. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    The basic problem here is that it’s an amateur film that was presumably never intended for showing beyond Barnbrook’s immediate circle.
    Which certainly makes it worth a giggle, but it’s probably a tad futile trying to read too much into it. I mean, anyone who’s seen Ken Russell’s The Music Lovers will have seen a fair bit more of the honourable member for Hampstead than is usually on display in the House of Commons, but I don’t think this has any bearing on her political career.
    There are also some rather obvious legal problems in connection with distributing someone else’s work without their permission – and it’s probably safe to assume that Barnbrook is still the copyright holder. I’m guessing that this BNP video was produced in-house?

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  6. AntiCitizenOne Avatar
    AntiCitizenOne

    Can’t I just laugh at both the Gruaniad and the BNP (despite the cognitive dissonance)?

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  7. Neil Craig Avatar
    Neil Craig

    Venichka’s point about this having been round for ages says a lot about how our media work. they don’t actually look for original stories but just read each other’s stories (or get the same lobby sources).
    Tim adds: Wha? You mean they’re bloggers?

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  8. JuliaM Avatar
    JuliaM

    “Can’t I just laugh at both the Gruaniad and the BNP (despite the cognitive dissonance)?”
    I do…after all, they are both ‘hard Left’… 🙂
    But then, if this is the best response to the BNP it’s also rather sad:
    “Damn, we told those common oiks not to vote for the BNP ‘cos they were horrible racists, and they did anyway. What are we going to do now?”
    “We could call the voters racists…?”
    “Ooh, ohh, no, I’ve got it! We tell them not to vote for the BNP ‘cos they make …..crap porn films!! (and might be – whisper it – a bit light in the loafers, know what I mean)”
    “Brilliant! Everyone off to the pub! Drinks are on Venichka…”
    I can’t see this working as a political strategy, can anyone else?

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  9. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    In 1980, some Democrat activists bought the TV rights to Bedtime for Bonzo (a film that’s impossible to watch today without viewing it as some kind of political satire), but were unable to screen it as part of their campaign owing to rules about candidate airtime.

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  10. Neil Avatar
    Neil

    Anyone interested in the BNP’s rise – from either side of the argument – may also be interested in this site – http://www.notfair.co.uk – which is collecting responses from MPs (as well as the public) as to WHY they think the BNP is making such gains, and what they think can be done to stop them.
    It’s a site from a political theatre company who have a play on in the West End later this month which tackles the issues head on. Very timely and very worth checking out…

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  11. Venichka Avatar
    Venichka

    Oh it wouldn’t speak of Barnbrook’s (fairly non-existent) political qualities at all.
    (And it was also a fairly flippant statement that I was making – not a coherent plan to ensure that the BNP are not reelected there)
    (Granted, he may be their only councillor in Barking and Dagenham able to string a sentence of more than two syllables together. Prior to hearing him speak, I had the mistaken impression that he might be able to do so without sounding like he was going to glass his interlocateur*.)
    (* Should any BNP members be reading this, that means whoever he was talking at)
    But every wannabe dictator needs a cult of personality: so it seems fitting that Barnbrook’s video be seen widely. It can hardly be worse than the writings or artworks of countless more successful authoritarian leaders.
    As for a political strategy to combat the BNP – well, I can speak (to some extent) for Barking & Dagenham, which I think has somewhat different issues from the party’s other areas of (relatively limited) success in the North-West. Housing most notably. And a frantic pace of social change (closure of big factories, people moving in from London as it’s the only place they can afford to buy property: arguably these issues are more important than immigration, actually)
    One other problem is that historically the borough has been something of a “one party state” – Labour got complacent. That needs to change.

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  12. JuliaM Avatar
    JuliaM

    “his interlocateur (* Should any BNP members be reading this, that means whoever he was talking at)”
    Did you mean ‘interlocutor’..?
    And yes, to save you the bother of searching, I’ve probably spelt a few things incorrectly in various posts here & there. But then, hopefully, not in the kind of sneering, god-these-people-are-dim comment you wrote above… That’s just too embarassing, isn’t it?
    Do you ever consider – for a moment – why this kind of attitude of ‘knowing better than the proles what’s good for them’ might be feeding the votes for the BNP and general apathy with politics?

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  13. Venichka Avatar
    Venichka

    Well, I used the French spelling for a word of French origin. Silly me.
    Erm, I wouldn’t claim to “know better than the proles what’s good for them” (at least beyond saying that supporting a neo-fascist party is clearly not), not least because I come from an almost identical background to most of the people who voted for them in this town. My parents live in council housing in Dagenham, and now find themselves “represented” (or rather, not) by a BNP councillor there. I grew up on the estate where almost all of these councillors were elected, and, yes. if you want to add to the stereotype, my father did work as an electrician in the car factory that most people associate with the town. So in a way I take the fact that these scum were elected personally.
    And. yes, I do look down on people involved with the BNP. Not because they are (your word, not mine) “proles”, but because they have chosen to assocaite themselves with an antidemocratic, racist, force, filled with disgusting bigots. (If anything, I have far greater contempt for people in certain other parts of the country, including a few miles north of Dagenham, in Epping Forest, who voted BNP despite the luxuriousness of their living conditions and generally more elevated “social status”)
    As for BNP councillors being a rather dumb bunch – – – the record speaks for itself. You know about the one in Dagenham elected last year who resigned after a few months saying that council meetings “went right over his head”. Plenty of other similar examples abound, elsewhere, too.
    To reiterate what I thought I made clear above: the people who voted for them must be listened to (the fact they have been ignored is one reason why they voted for a fascist party): however, the BNP themselves are best ignored and isolated.

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  14. JuliaM Avatar
    JuliaM

    “the BNP themselves are best ignored and isolated”
    Kind of hard to do that to a democratically elected representative, don’t you think…?
    Or, does democracy only really work when it elects people you like & would vote for?
    “If anything, I have far greater contempt for people ….who voted BNP despite the luxuriousness of their living conditions and generally more elevated “social status””
    ? I didn’t realise your voting preference must be tied to your current circumstances and location! Damn, I might have been voting illegally all these years…
    Perhap the people in Epping (which is not so far away from Dagenham, as you must know, see the same things they do, and are not prepared to take an ‘I’m all right Jack (for now)’ attitude?
    Once again, with your “more elevated “social status”, you betray your real thinking about the BNP voters…

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  15. Venichka Avatar
    Venichka

    I am quite happy to state that I regard BNP voters with contempt (or, at best, pity).
    Because they voted for an overtly fascist (and in parts, openly Nazi) party.
    Their social background is irrelevent.
    (B&D does have clear social and economic problems: so I am more sympathetic to people making some kind of “protest vote” there than I am in somewhere like Epping Forest, which is fairly prosperous . And yes, I do believe voting in local elections shoudl be about local issues, in response to another of your comments)
    I wouldn’t for example vote Green or Liberal Democrat, either, but I would recognize that both those parties are not anti-democratic, or a threat to the democratic system, that the BNP clearly is.
    the fact that Richard Barnbrook now has effectively, on radio 4, admitted that the main thrust of the party’s campaign in B&D (and S Essex more generally) was based on a lie (“africans for essex” programme) doesn’t look too good, does it?
    What is it that you see that makes you not prepared to take an “I’m all right Jack (for now) attitude”? I’d be genuinely interested to know.

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  16. John Avatar
    John

    Venichka your a twat!!

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  17. Barry Avatar
    Barry

    Utter hypocrisy as usual from the anti-British left-wing PC fascists. Even if this story was true (which it isn’t) how can any self-respecting PC fascist/leftie condemmm Mr Barnbrook for his alleged homosexuality? I thought you lot were against homophobia? But its ok to use against ‘racists’ I suppose! TYPICAL OF THE SICKENING HYPOCRISY THE LEFT REGULARY DISPLAY AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY PEOPLE VOTE FOR THE BNP!

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