Greener Trains

So we’re going to have a new generation of trains:

With Whitehall footing the bill, the three train
operators running the next generation of high-speed trains – Midland
Mainline, First Great Western and GNER – will have to use the same
design.

The new trains are due in 2013 and manufacturers will be invited to bid for the contract next year.

Ho ho ho. The Government’s going to run the program? Contracts bid for in 2007? On the line in 2013? Pull the other one Sonny, it’s got bells on it.

Mr Darling made clear that the rail industry could not be complacent about its environmental credentials.

"Rail is considered to be one of the greener ways to travel," he said. "It is, but only up to a point.

Absolutely, as that report pointed out last year, car travel is often less emittive than rail travel. Yes, that’s right, travelling by train can, and often does, cause more damage to the environment than driving.

"Twenty cars today now produce fewer emissions than one car built in the 1980s.

"Rail, in comparison, has not done as well as it could."

Rolling
stock was getting heavier. Every seat on the Pendolino trains, used on
the West Coast line by Virgin, weighs half as much as a Land Rover
Discovery, he said.

10 responses

  1. Green trains? Henry and Gordon will be pleased.

  2. Shit, no. Gordon was blue. Sorry. Ignore me.

  3. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    The report didn’t really find that. It found that on a similar % load, a Diesel Passat going (presumably) 110 kmph was slightly more economical on fuel than a 225 kmph train on a journey to Edinburgh.

  4. The report didn’t really find that. It found that on a similar % load, a Diesel Passat going (presumably) 110 kmph was slightly more economical on fuel than a 225 kmph train on a journey to Edinburgh.
    Per passenger, surely? Which only works if the train is full. Were the train empty, it would use the same amount of fuel yet not achieve any purpose.

  5. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    “Similar % load” is the bit you’ve missed. But yes, ‘per passenger’.

  6. Every seat on the Pendolino trains, used on the West Coast line by Virgin, weighs half as much as a Land Rover Discovery, he said.
    Somebody’s on crack.

  7. James Hamilton Avatar
    James Hamilton

    I haven’t seen the Railway Series for years, but I have a hunch that Henry was also blue, prior to his being walled-up anchorite style in the first volume of the series.
    The High Speed Trains were just about the only BR state-run project to come in on time and on budget, and they’re still a damned sight more pleasant to travel in than the newer stuff introduced by Virgin, including the aforesaid Pendolino..

  8. ..and, if you’re young, stupid and brave, you can stick your head out of the window at full speed and scare yourself. Not that I’m recommending that.

  9. No, no crack involved. IIRC there are two basic reasons for the result: firstly, trains last longer than cars, so the diesel-powered ones are likely to have older powerplants which are less efficient; and a lot of trains operate at rather small occupancy, even by comparison to buses. Electric trains are as polluting as the power generation infrastructure, but this doesn’t solve the occupancy issue.

  10. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    This is not right. The Pendolino is a relatively new train.
    Tim adds: New and electric. So emissions depend upon how the electricy is generated, as Chris says.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_390

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