Ethnic Minorities in the UK.

Gary Younge flags up some figures which he clearly thinks are appalling:

The racial group in
Britain that has the hardest time integrating is white people. A YouGov
poll for the Commission for Racial Equality last year showed that 83%
of whites have no friends who are practising Muslims, while only 48% of
non-white people do. It revealed that 94% of whites, compared with 47%
of people from ethnic minorities, say most or all their friends are
white. There is no good reason why white people should go out of their
way to befriend ethnic minorities. But the truth is some go out of
their way not to. A Mori poll for Prospect magazine last year showed
that 41% of whites, compared with 26% of ethnic minorities, want the
races to live separately.

Well, OK. Now I know that I often have problems with statistics but somehow I really don’t find that all that surprising:

In
the 2001 Census, 87.5 per cent of the population of England and Wales
described themselves as white British (seven out of eight people) and
in Scotland this increased to 98 percent of the population. In Wales,
the North East and South West, over 95 per cent of the population
described themselves as white.

Aren’t Gary’s figures simply an inherent part of the distribution? Why should we be surprised that 87.5% of the population don’t know 12.5% of it, while the 12.5% of it do know some of the 87.5%? Isn’t this exactly what we would expect?

8 responses

  1. Why does Gary find this noteworty. It is well known that Guardian readers don’t practice what they preach. They live in affluent, white suburbs, consume more energy than most people and make sure their children go to white dominated schools.

  2. Rub-a-dub Avatar
    Rub-a-dub

    I know some Guardian readers, but I try to avoid them.

  3. Chris harper Avatar
    Chris harper

    Actually, no, I wouldn’t expect this purely on statistical terms.
    If I have half a dozen good friends and two dozen friends I would expect the chances of there being at least one muslin amongst them as trending towards 50%.
    There are other, probably sociological, factors operating here.

  4. I think also imporant is geographical concentration, with most people having friends only in their same town or area.
    Simon – I’m surprised by your information. I was under the impression in Clicheville that most Guardian readers lived in Islington or Notting Hill, which aren’t white suburbs.

  5. It revealed that 94% of whites, compared with 47% of people from ethnic minorities, say most or all their friends are white.
    Heh! I like the way he splits the country into “whites” and “ethnic minorities”. Had he not done so, I’m guessing the degree of mixing between the different ethnic minority groups would have made the whites look pretty integrated.

  6. Rub-a-dub Avatar
    Rub-a-dub

    Younge mixes up Muslim with non-white to make a Grauniad article.
    Muslims are like buses, Chris, you wait for years to befriend one and then three come along at once.
    I may not be Trevor Philips, but I think I know where to go to find some Muslims: Bradford, Leicester, Leeds, Birmingham, London etc. — geographically very clustered. If you don’t live in a Muslim area you’re unlikely to know any.

  7. Chris harper Avatar
    Chris harper

    Matthew, just because Guardian readers/writers/Polly herself live in racially mixed areas doesn’t mean they mix with any other than their socially enlightened public school chums.

  8. The first set of stats may be explained by how people live and geographical distribution.
    But that doesn’t explain the second set of stats commissioned by Prospect.

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