Bye, Bye, Freedom.

Wonderful, quite wonderful. A terrorist attack and the police ask for, well, have a look:


   Police
last night told Tony Blair that they need sweeping new powers to
counter the terrorist threat, including the right to detain a suspect
for up to three months without charge instead of the current 14 days.

Senior
officers also want powers to attack and close down websites, and a new
criminal offence of using the internet to prepare acts of terrorism, to
"suppress inappropriate internet usage".

They
also want to make it a criminal offence for suspects to refuse to
cooperate in giving the police full access to computer files by
refusing to disclose their encryption keys.

Yes, I do understand that we already have different rules about people being held when charged or suspected of terrorist offenses. But three months? What about Habeus Corpus? This really means that you can be banged up, without a lawyer, trial, appeal, even communication with the outside world, just because a policeman doesn’t like the cut of your jilbab. They can’t be serious about this, providing another of the trappings of a police state over the mere threat of bombs.

It gets worse:

Terror suspects to give compulsory answers to questions similar to obligations on company directors in fraud trials;

Abolition of the right to remain silent? Jesu Christe do these people not understand the very basics of our system? That if they accuse someone of something then they have to prove that accusation. There is no requirement that the accused disprove the allegations. How can there be when it is the individual against the entire might of the State?

They are gutting the provisions of the Common Law, that system built up over a millenia to protect us from that most dangerous of things, the State. Bastards.

8 responses

  1. As the boss chimp said, “the terrorists hate our freedom.” So I guess we have to follow what the terrorists want us to do: give up our freedom, bit by bit.
    OK, the terrorists can call off their campaign to turn the civilized world into 7th century Arabia now. We have started down that path and we will soon get there. The boss chimp is leading the way.

  2. We have a Home Secretary who told his European Peers that
    “We should not let Civil Liberties get in the way of Fighting Terrorists”.
    Thats why he has chosen Group Punishment over targeting criminals at every possible opportunity.

  3. kipling Avatar
    kipling

    Now where the hell do they get their ideas from, I wonder? http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

  4. dsquared Avatar
    dsquared

    Whoever wrote this editorial (or whichever government flack briefed him) doesn’t understand company law very well. Company directors do not have to give answers to questions in “fraud trials” (well, everyone has to give answers to questions any kind of trial because to refuse is to commit contempt of court but I am guessing they mean criminal investigations of fraud).
    Company directors are obliged to answer questions of DTI investigators into frauds under the Companies Act but they are very reluctant to use this power precisely because it creates the danger that any future criminal prosecution for the fraud will be prejudiced because the evidence will be contaminated with facts that have been obtained coercively. The courts can and have thrown out genuine fraud cases because the protection against self-incrimination was not respected and the ECHR more or less obliges them to.
    Tim adds: Thanks for this. Now that you’ve reminded me , yes, you’re right.

  5. It is already a criminal offense to refuse to give over encryption keys under Regulation Investigatory Powers Act 1999.
    RIPA also states that if you cannot hand over the keys then it is up to you to prove that it is impossible. This was New Labours first attempt to make everybody guilty until proven innocent.

  6. dsquared Avatar
    dsquared

    Btw, be careful what you wish for Tim: almost all of this psychotic legislation that the Blairies are trying to push through is completely inconsistent with the European Convention on Human Rights and if push comes to shove I am not at all convinced that Tony will decide to choose to remain in Europe.

  7. New Labour wants yet more draconian powers

    Forgetting that they have already got most of the powers they area asking for, it must be a problem keeping track of all of their many assaults on liberty, New Labour want yet more.
    New Labour tough on Liberty, tough on the causes of liberty.

  8. And yes they do understand the provisions of our Constitution, which is why they are so keen on disposing of it

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